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This is an image of a U.S. nickel, which features Thomas Jefferson, the third president and a well known secularist and harsh critic of religion.

EDIT: Let me clarify that I'm not saying Jefferson was an atheist (although some people speculate that he may have secretly been one), I'm saying that he did not believe in the specific god referred to in the phrase "In God We Trust" (Yahweh and/or Jesus).

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Come to think of it, that is kinda ironic... XD
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Hahaha

Amazing!

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^^ awesome

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or how religion gets into politics but we don't tax churches.

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He wasn't a fan of state run religions like the Anglican church or what catholicism did in Europe, nor did he like the amount of power wielded by the Pope.

However, he also used the terms "God" and "creator" quite often in his writings. He was a deist. He believed in a powerful supernatural being, he was NOT a fan of organized religion. Mostly because he saw them as quasi governmental organizations, and the people had no say in who would be calling the shots (thus the people cannot fire the Pope or King of England without armed insurrection for example)
The existence of a supreme being was actually the foundation of his ideas of liberty. A supreme power granted each and every one of us with equal, inalienable rights that are a crime against that creator to take away from an individual. And further, if a government took those rights away, you still posses those natural rights and it was your duty to seize them back from your government by exercising them.

Jefferson hated all forms of overarching power in his life. Didn't see much distinction between the church and a government. For a long time they were one in the same. Jefferson did most certainly believe in a God though.

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Yes, Jefferson appeared to be a deist. This is why I called him a non believer and not an atheist.

A deistic god is vastly different than a theistic one. A deistic god is not one who you would need to trust in (pertaining to "In god we trust") and according to any of the Abrahamic religions, a deist would be considered a heretic alongside an atheist.

So I stand by my labeling of Jefferson as a non believer. He didn't believe in a personal god, and he didn't believe in religion.
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this may seem totally a-d-d from everyone elses comments... but i think thats a fantastic shot of the nickel!


i dont think ive ever seen one that clear... and i cant tell if its a CG image or photographed... i hope its not CG...

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Indeed, that is one fine looking nickel.

I took it from the web so I don't know for sure but I think it's a photograph.
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Very nice photo and a good point :D.Out of interest:the "In God we trust" was only added to American currency in the 1950's.Is that true?

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